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Zach Lesage

Flame Ballin’ - Cinderace VMAX 

Zach showcases his upcoming Cinderace VMAX deck and strategy in this article

04/02/2020 by Zach Lesage

What’s poppin’ 60 Cards readers? I’m back here with another Rebel Clash deck that I have been testing for a few weeks and by the title, you might have guessed it! Yup, it’s totally all about Cinderace VMAX today! Cinderace VMAX is a new card from the upcoming Rebel Clash format that could see some play when it is released. It has a large amount of HP, some reliable attacks, and an established skeleton provided by Fire Toolbox decks. In this article I will go over my list, explain my card inclusions, and share the strategy of the deck. During this pandemic I will do my best to share as much content as possible. It might not be Sword and Shield related, but it will be refreshing content. Let’s quickly look at the translations for some of these cards and then jump into my list!

Notable Translations

Shoutouts to Limitless for the early translations!

Cinderace VMAX

Cinderace VMAX - Fire - 320 HP

Pokemon - VMAX

RC Counter 30+

This attack does as much more damage, as this Pokemon received from attacks during your opponent's last turn.

RRC Flame Ball Max 170

Your opponent's Active Pokemon is now Burned.

Weakness: Water

Resistance: None

Retreat: 2

Cinderace V

Cinderace V - Fire - 210 HP

Pokemon - Basic

Ability: Field Runner

If there is any Stadium card in play, this Pokemon has no Retreat Cost.

RRC Crimson Leg 140

Weakness: Water

Resistance: None

Retreat: 2

Ninetales V

Ninetales V - Fire - 200 HP

Pokemon - Basic

RCC Tail Shapeshifting

Choose 1 of your opponent's Active Pokemon's attacks and use it as this attack.

RCCC Flamethrower 180

Discard an Energy attached to this Pokemon.

Weakness: Water

Resistance: None

Retreat: 2

Eldegoss V

Eldegoss-V - Grass - 180 HP

Pokemon - Basic

Ability: Happy Match

When your put this card onto your bench form your hand during your turn, you may put a supporter card form your discard pile and put it into your hand.

CC Soar 50

You may shuffle this Pokemon and all cards attached to it into your deck.

Weakness: Fire

Resistance: None

Retreat: 1

Boss's Orders

Boss's Orders

Trainer - Supporter

Switch your opponent's Active Pokemon with 1 of his or her Benched Pokemon.

Cinderace VMAX Toolbox

This list aims to combine the upcoming release of Cinderace VMAX with the existing skeleton list for Fire Toolbox. While it might seem weird to apply an older deck engine to a concept that doesn’t exist, you have to understand that most fire decks are going to be based off of Welder (UBO; 189)  in general. With the most recent success being my finalist run at OCIC, and LAIC being close to identical, we have to go off of the success we have seen. That being said, Cinderace VMAX is likely going to be more polished than most other new Rebel Clash decks! Anyways, lets look at that list... 

Pokémon - 17

4 Jirachi TEU 

3 Cinderace VMAX REC

3 Cinderace V REC

2 Dedenne-GX UNB

1 Heatran-GX UMI

1 Ninetales V REC

1 Eldegoss V REC

1 Volcanion UNB

1 Victini V SWH

Trainers - 31

2 Giant Hearth

1 Heat Factory Prism Star

4 Welder

2 Mallow & Lana

2 Boss’s Orders

4 Pokémon Communication

4 Quick Ball

4 Switch

2 Escape Board

2 Fire Crystal 

1 Great Catcher

1 Tool Scrapper

1 Fiery Flint

1 Pal Pad

Energy - 12

12 Fire Energy

The goal for this deck is to use Welder (UBO; 189)  on various Pokémon to attack your opponent in the most efficient way. There are different Pokémon that thrive off of varying Energy counts and they each bring a sense of uniqueness to the deck. The biggest difference between this deck and Fire Toolbox is that this deck mainly uses Cinderace VMAX as an attacker instead of having more tech options. While I don’t necessarily like decks that have less room for strategy by focusing more on a singular Pokémon, Cinderace VMAX does have some things going for it. Between an efficient 170 + Burn for three Energy and a large amount of HP, the slight differences between this deck and Fire Toolbox might make it viable in a different way. Let’s look over the cards in a bit more detail.

Card Explanation

In this section I will go over all of the cards in the deck to explain their uses!


In an effort to make this deck more consistent, Jirachi is seen as a necessity. Make sure to slap on an Escape Board (UPR; 122)  to get out of Stellar Wish making you Asleep (Watch our for Absol (TM; 88) ) or use Switch to get out of the Active Spot. Welder (UBO; 189)  can only draw so many cards so this card allows you to go the distance!

Cinderace VMAX / Cinderace V

These are the new stars of the show - well, at least in this deck. Cinderace V functions similar to a Heatran because it can hit 140 for three (an upgrade in the previous 130). It also gains pseudo-free retreat with its Ability which can give you some extra mobility if necessary. Cinderace VMAX is an interesting addition to fire decks because it offers two distinct attacks and a large amount of HP. It’s first attack can hit back 30 damage harder than what your opponent has just attacked you with which can lead to some interesting scenarios. Maybe they won’t attack. Maybe they won’t realize. Maybe they will choose a different attack. The deck uses Mallow & Lana as a way to heal that damage that was done to get more attacks off in general. The second attack can hit for a more consistent 170 damage + Burn (190 total). Overall, both of these Pokémon are strong attackers and are great assets to this deck. If you aren’t feeling the Cinderace VMAX vibe, you can cut this line for more tech cards. At that point I would highly recommend reading my articles on AbilityZard / Fire Toolbox (either past or current).


Similar to Jirachi (TM; 99) , Dedenne GX (UBO; 57)  makes this deck playable! You are really only using this card for Dedechange, but that is fine. Between drawing cards and allowing yourself to dump unneeded cards, this card is a huge consistency crutch! 


This is probably my fave attacker and that’s because it is super efficient. It’s ability means that you can spread Energy around to avoid having all of your eggs in one basket and it can do 130 for three Energy! Steaming Stomp might actually get dethroned as my fave attack in this deck for Cinderace V hitting 140 for three, but Burning Road might be the saving grace for this card. It’s GX attack allows you to do semi-infinite damage which is great at Knocking Out Tag Team Pokémon / VMAX (or any Pokémon if you truly want).

Ninetales V

Ninetales V offers a certain level of spice to this deck because it can be anything you want it to be, as long as it is in front of you. Wanna attack with Arceus & Dialga & Palkia Tag Team GX (CoE; 156) ? It can be done! Want to copy Dragapult VMAX - ta dah!!! It’s done! With Ninetales V scaling as much as your opponents Active Pokémon can offer, it seems like a great tech card going forward.

Eldegoss V

Similar to VS Seeker (ROS; 110) , Eldegoss V can grab back important cards like Welder (UBO; 189) . Yeah, this is a Welder (UBO; 189)  deck - get those cards back! Additionally, this card can get back a Boss’s Orders or a Mallow & Lana (CoE; 198 )  when you need them the most. Just make sure to keep a Bench Spot open!

Victini V

I really like this card a lot! Not only is it not a GX Pokémon (it can’t get gusted up with Great catcher (CoE; 191) ), it has two solid attacks that are extremely different from each other! Spreading Flames allows for an explosive T1 that allows you to attach three Energy with Welder and three with Spreading Flames! This means you can effectively spread Energy to power up a Heatran GX (UB; 25) , Cinderace V, or Cinderace VMAX! Energy Burst can make quick work of a Zacian V (S&S; 138)  or give yourself the opportunity to bop a Mewtwo & Mew GX (UB; 71) with plenty of Energy attached to it! 

Giant Hearth / Fiery Flint

You need Fire Energy in your hand and you needs outs to discard Fire Energy / cards in your hand! These cards provide you with many options, but I use them to thin my deck out quickly while grabbing the Energy I need! I also use them to power up Spreading Flames and discard clutter in my hand.

Heat Factory Prism Star

Sometimes you need to draw cards because drawing three with Welder doesn’t cut it all of the time. Similar to Giant Hearth (UB; 197)  / Fiery Flint (DM; 60) , this is a great way to discard Fire Energy from your hand in a pinch! Remember, this card can’t get bumped by cards like Faba (LT; 173)  - only other Stadiums! 

Welder / Pal Pad

Welder (UBO; 189)  is the Energy accelerating option in this deck and Pal Pad (S&S; 172) gets it back! A turn without Welder (UBO; 189)  is usually a turn that has been wasted! Well, maybe... With Cinderace VMAX having its Counter attack, it’s possible to use other supporters during your turn. That’s why this deck doesn’t necessarily have to focus on Welder as much as other Fire decks, but it is still an option to Mallow & Lana (CoE; 198 )  into this deck to use again! 

Mallow & Lana

With Cinderace VMAX having a Counter attack, Mallow & Lana (CoE; 198 )  can extend the life of that Pokémon for you to hit back stronger than your opponent can. 

Boss’s Orders / Great Catcher

Sometimes you just wanna gust something up to Knock it Out! 

Quick Ball / Pokémon Communication

Quick Ball (S&S; 179)  is about as essential as cards can get in this game. Pokemon Communication (TM; 152)  allows for this deck to search out VMAX Pokémon, something that is quite difficult at times, so I went with a heavier count. I might cut a Comm for another tech card or another Crystal.

Switch / Escape Board

While both of these cards work great with Jirachi (TM; 99)  (especially Escape Board (UPR; 122) ), they are both great at getting unwanted Pokémon out of the Active Spot! 

Fire Crystal / Fire Energy 

This deck plays less Fire Energy than a normal Fire Toolbox deck and it needs to get back Energy sometimes with Fire Crystal (UBO; 173) . Nothing out of the ordinary here. I wouldn’t mind cutting a Comm for another Crystal. 

Tool Scrapper

With decks like Zacian V (S&S; 138)  / Arceus & Dialga & Palkia Tag Team GX (CoE; 156)  playing Metal Frying Pan (FLI; 112) , Tool Scrapper (DR; 116)  can get around that! If Tool Cards drop in popularity, it might be a good idea to find a replacement card for this.


While I don’t like flaunting my success everywhere I go, I would like to think that I know a thing or two about Fire decks in general ( Blacephalon GX (LT; 52) 18/19 and Fire Toolbox 19/20). My issue with Cinderace VMAX is that it feels like a worse Fire Toolbox. You have to dedicate many tech cards, like Mallow & Lana (CoE; 198 ) , and it feels unnatural to me. On top of that, you have to cut Ninetales (TM; 16)  from the list to make space for other cards which means you sometimes have to use your Supporter for the turn on a Boss’s Orders. It just has less options in general than a Fire Toolbox deck. Cinderace VMAX isn’t a bad deck, it just isn’t up to par to its existing brethren. I would proceed with caution for this deck and only play it if you are a fan on Cinderace in general. It could be an acceptable choice for a League Challenge or League Cup, but I would look into other options for major events.

Stay Safe

While the season was just “cancelled” on us, which you can read about here, we can look forward to those who step up. Limitless has offered us a “high-profile” event to play in and it is refreshing to have something positive to look forward to as a change. There are content creators, article writers, and more that are looking forward to the future with interesting content. Things will be better and I can only look forward to my next physical event. Until then, I am going to be writing articles, filming videos, and getting ready for some upcoming online events. I already have a few articles in the creation process and I will be using this pandemic as a way to help our community grow as players. I appreciate all of the support I have received from messages so far and I will use it as motivation going forward! If you are looking for coaching or if you wanna follow me on Social Media, check out these links!

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